Author and columnist Douglas Murray, a staunch supporter of the state of Israel, questioned podcast host Joe Rogan about his streak of guests with an anti-Israel tilt, as he has consistently had clearly anti-Israel personalities on his show.
“Can I ask you something?” Murray began during an appearance on Rogan’s podcast, where he was also joined by comedian-turned-political analyst Dave Smith. “Since the war in Israel began, and since the war in Ukraine began, you’ve had quite a lot of people who are very against both, in different ways. Do you think you’ve had enough people on who are supportive of the war?”
“I don’t know that word ‘enough,’ if that’s a good word,” Rogan answered.
“Let’s say enough people who are on the side of Israel, instead of wild critics,” Murray said.
Rogan, after a back-and-forth in which he conceded that his guests tended to “tilt” against Israel, defended his selection of guests.
“Well, I’ve had a few; I believe Gad Saad is on the side of Israel,” Rogan said.
“For sure,” Murray agreed.
“Jordan [Peterson] is on the side of Israel,” Rogan said.
“Do you think you’ve tilted one way?” Murray asked.
“Me, personally?” Rogan responded.
“No, no. Just the guests you’ve had,” Murray said.
“Yeah, probably more tilted towards the idea that perhaps the way they’ve done it is barbaric,” Rogan said, referring to Israel’s war against Hamas terrorists.
“Why do you think that is? Because interesting your selection of guests …” Murray pointed out.
“I don’t think about it that way. I just think, I’d like to talk to that person,” Rogan said.
Murray then pressed Rogan on why he brings on people who, Murray explained, simply don’t know what they’re talking about.
“If you’re going to interview historians of the conflict, or just historians in general, why would you get someone like Ian Carroll?” Murray asked.
“Yeah, but Ian Carroll, I didn’t bring him on for that purpose,” Rogan said. “I brought him on because I want to find out, like, how does one get involved in the whole conspiracy theory business, because his whole thing is just conspiracies, y’know?”
“There’s been a tilt in the conversations, both conversations, the last couple years, and it’s largely to do with people who have appointed themselves experts who are not experts,” Murray pointed out.
“I don’t think he appointed himself expert in anything,” Rogan protested.
“Who’s that other dude who thinks he’s an expert on Churchill?” Murray asked.
“Daryl Cooper does not think he’s an expert,” Rogan said. “Have you ever absorbed any of his material? Have you ever consumed any of his podcasts or anything?”
Murray replied:
I tried. It’s pretty hard to listen to somebody who says, “I don’t know what I’m talking about but now I’m gonna talk.” Or, “I don’t know about this.” Or, “I’m not capable of debating this historian but I’m just going to tell you what I think.” … If you throw a lot of s*** out there, there’s some point at which “I’m just raising questions” is not a valid thing. You’re not “raising questions.” You’re not “asking questions.” You’re telling people something.
Murray concluded, “I think there’s a whole bunch of guys doing that. Dave is doing that, very obviously. Dave’s a comedian, but he’s now mainly talking about Israel.”
The episode continues with a lengthy discussion of the war between Israel and Hamas, the history and purpose of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and other foreign policy issues.
Douglas Murray just called out Joe Rogan in a major way. I love Joe, but seeing him squirm here is hilarious 😂😂 pic.twitter.com/kMYQRflt3e
— Britta | NoSoup4Knowles (@nosoup4knowles) April 10, 2025
